tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1563853500191419670.post3493762308574398065..comments2023-10-10T15:07:27.219+03:00Comments on Tails of Athens: Migrants in Greece/Εγκλημα και αφασία!!Faliriotissahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03023782464556697893noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1563853500191419670.post-11499843434558414752011-05-15T03:05:40.904+03:002011-05-15T03:05:40.904+03:00@Μιο,your comment and the one by Janet got lost in...@Μιο,your comment and the one by Janet got lost in the google mayhem.I saw them read them,answered and then they were gone :(<br />PS How is your dog doing?Faliriotissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03023782464556697893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1563853500191419670.post-72304391639988948862011-05-15T03:03:40.301+03:002011-05-15T03:03:40.301+03:00Πιάσε τα ταμπούρια στον Υμηττο,εξάδελφε,ανεβαίνουμ...Πιάσε τα ταμπούρια στον Υμηττο,εξάδελφε,ανεβαίνουμε κι εμείς οσονούπω!Faliriotissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03023782464556697893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1563853500191419670.post-69978728402000122942011-05-14T20:05:44.822+03:002011-05-14T20:05:44.822+03:00Οργη και αγανακτηση για την σφαγη του ανθρωπου, αλ...Οργη και αγανακτηση για την σφαγη του ανθρωπου, αλλα και για την εγκληματικη αδιαφορια, ανικανοτητα, ανυπαρξια, λουφα, πες τε το οπως θελετε, των "κυβερνωντων". Και μετα απελπισια, γιαιτ με την πορεια που εχουμε χαραξει και ακολουθουμε, σε λιγο θα βλεπουμε την Ακροπολη με τα κυαλια απο τον Υμηττο γιατι αυτη θα ειναι η αποσταση ασφαλειας.panathinaeoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17980862402002347764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1563853500191419670.post-57691536521241169332011-05-12T14:41:45.120+03:002011-05-12T14:41:45.120+03:00@Miodrag,
Thanks for the post and for sharing your...@Miodrag,<br />Thanks for the post and for sharing your opinion Mio :]<br />There isn't an easy solution in view. Italy hasnt found one yet,Spain either,and they are much bigger and richer countries than Greece.<br />Having read a lot of history,I'm chilingly aware that racism/fascism/nazism raises it's ugly head under resession/crisis conditions.<br />It's crazy and surreal to see 20something Neonazis in Europe saluting with a "hail Hitler".<br />I will do anything not to see this happening in Greece for @#$% sake!!!!<br /><br />PS Notice the difference between being a patriot and being a nationalist :] *hugs*<br />PS2 How is your dog doing??Faliriotissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03023782464556697893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1563853500191419670.post-68845033686555452502011-05-12T14:19:07.580+03:002011-05-12T14:19:07.580+03:00@ Janet,
*sigh*. If you see the matter globaly and...@ Janet,<br />*sigh*. If you see the matter globaly and historically,there is no way to stop desperate people migrating massively. And this is what is been happening the last couple of decades.<br />Like water running from the highest to the lowest point.<br />There are international "mafias" taking advantage of poor peoples dream for a better life.They "advertise" thetrip to wealth and prosperity,they charge something around 2-3.000 dollars a head.<br /> In our case,there are rings of smugglers transporting migrants from Turkey on rotten not seaworthy boats that often capsize in a storm and dozens of ppl-women and children too-drown :(( Greece has thousants of miles of sea borders,can't guard them all. And very often greek warships save drowning ppl,you cant possibly let them die.<br />Greece has signed a european treaty-the Dublin treaty-which states that illegal migrants have to stay in the first country they reach...So south countries like us,Malta,Italy and Spain have become "dump-bins" for all these unfortunate souls. <br />I see no solution unless it is a European one,either to assimilate them or make conditions in their countries better so these ppl have no reason to risk their lives to cross to Europe-or the USA.Faliriotissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03023782464556697893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1563853500191419670.post-79790935498496844152011-05-12T10:30:05.029+03:002011-05-12T10:30:05.029+03:00As my comment is to large to fit blog standards, I...As my comment is to large to fit blog standards, I am making it available at this location instead of chopping it to pieces:<br /><br />http://pastebin.com/index/uwwFASaZMiodraghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05069205116676197421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1563853500191419670.post-60006191700338417752011-05-12T07:50:29.670+03:002011-05-12T07:50:29.670+03:00OH MY GOSH!!! That's horrible, and so scary! W...OH MY GOSH!!! That's horrible, and so scary! What a terrible situation for everyone. The migrants are stuck and then forced to become thieves just to survive, but Greece has to just deal with it. A million illegal immigrants in your country? 1 out of 10 people are illegal immigrants???! That is outrageous! <br /><br />Estimates say there are 12-30 million illegal immigrants in the US, but our overall population is 310 million, which makes your problem completely unbelievable. Most of the illegals in our country are in states bordering Mexico and also in Florida. The majority are Mexican but we have many from El Salvador, Guatamala, Cuba, Honduras, and we have some from India, Korea, and the Philippines too, plus smaller amounts from lots of other countries.<br /><br />I'm sitting here thinking about what it must be like to be you. Your country is so easy to sneak into. So many countries that are so close...how can you possibly protect your borders from these people? They rob your country of so much, but how can you fight so many??? I would feel like you do: scared and angry. FURIOUS is what I would feel too...but...what can you do about it???<br /><br />For me, I have lived in California most of my life. We have had to deal with illegal immigrants as a way of life. Love them or hate them, you have to deal with them. In our country, the ones we can see are like locusts, milling around in certain areas where they may be lucky enough to get picked up for day jobs. Others are absorbed in the hispanic/other communities to find reasonable work as they can, and they do ok. Still others are forced to work in miserable conditions, in dark shops where they have long hours for very little pay, but they have no voice. I feel so sad for those who are forced into the sex trades, very often underaged, scarred for life, and many are used up and left for dead.<br /><br />It's an awful subject. Talking about illegal immigrants is nearly on the same level as talking about religion, abortion or politics...it's absolutely explosive. Everyone has a very strong opinion and there's no clear-cut answer. In the United States, if you bring up illegal immigrants, the volume goes up to 10 right away. And...I see that the same is for Greece.<br /><br />For me right now, I'm thinking about the numbers: 1 out of 10 people in Greece are illegal immigrants, compared to a high end of 1 out of 10 for the US. Greece is in a terrible situation. :( :( :( I don't blame you for being so upset. It makes me crazy too.Janet Brienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03657220700846916566noreply@blogger.com